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		<title>My good news is Strobists Dilemma</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a coincidence. On the same day I give away a photograph for free to be used by British Airways inflight magazine I read this from <a href="http://strobist.blogspot.com/2006/08/photographys-vanishing-middle-class.html">Strobist</a><br /> <blockquote>Try to resist the cheap thrill of being paid (very little) for a photo. The true expense of that action is that you ultimately deprive someone who has devoted their life to shooting professionally much of a chance of financial survival. If you are good enough to work for pay, you are good enough to work harder and raise the standards of the profession, not devalue them.</blockquote><br /><br />On the one hand I can totally get your point David, I really do. And you know, I do feel a little guilt for giving my photograph away (thanks for ruining a great moment in my photography career! heh).<br /><br />Having pondered on it for a little while though here are my thoughts<br /><ul><li>If I say "no" someone else will say "yes". <br /></li><li>The only person I would be depriving is <i>me</i> and sorry but depriving me hurts a lot more than depriving <i>you </i>from where I am standing.<br /></li><li>How the heck am I supposed to build a portfolio if I have to charge what <i>you</i> consider fair rates to people who consider those rates anything but.</li><li>The people who want cheap or free will not pay more than that.</li><li>What makes the photography industry any different?</li></ul>My last point needs some clarification. Consider web sites. A company comes to me and says "I want a web site to sell my widgets". I say "That will be $£xx,xxx.99". They say "Whoah, my neighbours nephews friends sister can do it for $£x". I say "Go get them to do it then and come back to me when they make a hash of it".<br /><br />If an industry gets commoditised it is because that industry is doing a poor job of selling itself. What is the difference between me building a website and the 12 year old kid with a copy of Dreamweaver? Oh, probably more than a million pounds in profit on the clients bottom line, and I can prove it, but I am not going to do it at the kids rates. You have to decide what the difference is between your photograph and some kids $1 stock photo. If there is no difference who's fault is that? Not the kid and not the customer, that's for sure.<br /><br /><br /><br /> <br /><br />Technorati Tags: <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/strobist" rel="tag">strobist</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/stock" rel="tag">stock</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/photography" rel="tag">photography</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/news" rel="tag">news</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a coincidence. On the same day I give away a photograph for free to be used by British Airways inflight magazine I read this from <a href="http://strobist.blogspot.com/2006/08/photographys-vanishing-middle-class.html">Strobist</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Try to resist the cheap thrill of being paid (very little) for a photo. The true expense of that action is that you ultimately deprive someone who has devoted their life to shooting professionally much of a chance of financial survival. If you are good enough to work for pay, you are good enough to work harder and raise the standards of the profession, not devalue them.</p></blockquote>
<p>On the one hand I can totally get your point David, I really do. And you know, I do feel a little guilt for giving my photograph away (thanks for ruining a great moment in my photography career! heh).</p>
<p>Having pondered on it for a little while though here are my thoughts</p>
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<li>If I say &#8220;no&#8221; someone else will say &#8220;yes&#8221;.</li>
<li>The only person I would be depriving is <em>me</em> and sorry but depriving me hurts a lot more than depriving <em>you </em>from where I am standing.</li>
<li>How the heck am I supposed to build a portfolio if I have to charge what <em>you</em> consider fair rates to people who consider those rates anything but.</li>
<li>The people who want cheap or free will not pay more than that.</li>
<li>What makes the photography industry any different?</li>
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<p>My last point needs some clarification. Consider web sites. A company comes to me and says &#8220;I want a web site to sell my widgets&#8221;. I say &#8220;That will be $£xx,xxx.99&#8243;. They say &#8220;Whoah, my neighbour&#8217;s nephew&#8217;s friend&#8217;s sister can do it for $£x&#8221;. I say &#8220;Go get them to do it then and come back to me when they make a hash of it&#8221;.</p>
<p>If an industry gets commoditised it is because that industry is doing a poor job of selling itself. What is the difference between me building a website and the 12 year old kid with a copy of Dreamweaver? Oh, probably more than a million pounds in profit on the clients bottom line, and I can prove it, but I am not going to do it at the kids rates. You have to decide what the difference is between your photograph and some kids $1 stock photo. If there is no difference who&#8217;s fault is that? Not the kid and not the customer, that&#8217;s for sure.</p>
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		<title>Photographers&#8217; Money Woes</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 08:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href="http://dslrblog.com/blog/chris">Chris </a>wrote in a <a href="http://dslrblog.com/blog/chris/royalty-free-stock-photography-doesnt-seem-that-great-a-deal-now">post </a>of his how Carl Purcell had one of his photos appear on an American stamp and how he must feel since it was a stock photo and he basically got nothing out of it. Well spare a thought for Kelly Fajack. Here he finds people violating his copyright and making money from one of his photos, literally!<p />The central African nation of  Burundi have used one of his photos without his permission for their 10,000 Burundi franc note. The photo was not in the public domain; it was just used on Mr Purcells personal website.
<p>Quite rightly he is suing the Burundi government, but to sue a government is quite tricky. Good look with that Carl, I hope you get a fair and just outcome.
<p> <a href="http://www.pdnonline.com/pdn/newswire/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002425159">Read more about it here</a>.<br /><br />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://dslrblog.com/blog/chris">Chris </a>wrote in a <a href="http://dslrblog.com/blog/chris/royalty-free-stock-photography-doesnt-seem-that-great-a-deal-now">post </a>of his how Carl Purcell had one of his photos appear on an American stamp and how he must feel since it was a stock photo and he basically got nothing out of it. Well spare a thought for Kelly Fajack. Here he finds people violating his copyright and making money from one of his photos, literally!</p>
<p>The central African nation of  Burundi have used one of his photos without his permission for their 10,000 Burundi franc note. The photo was not in the public domain; it was just used on Mr Purcell&#8217;s personal website.</p>
<p>Quite rightly he is suing the Burundi government, but to sue a government is quite tricky. Good look with that Carl, I hope you get a fair and just outcome.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pdnonline.com/pdn/newswire/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002425159">Read more about it here</a>.</p>
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