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BBC Ripping Off Flickr Photographers?
It seems the venerable bastion of public-funded media, “Auntie” BBC, is being a bit naughty when it comes to sourcing photography from Flickr users according to Editorial Photographers UK
Mark’s or Sparks’ clever wheeze was to sign up with the photo sharing site, then attempt to persuade his new friends to hand over their work to the Beeb – for free naturally. Of course there’s nothing new in cheapskate editors scouring Flickr for freebies. And the Beeb has excelled in its pursuit of license payers for free content for its viewers’ galleries, all under the terms of an infamous contract that allows the BBC to earn money from the pictures while placing any uncomfortable legal repercussions firmly on the contributor. But the Sparks scam has a whole new spin to it. He doesn’t just want pictures for the viewers’ gallery; nor is he asking if he can use existing material to illustrate BBC stories. He wants people to agree to give him unfettered access to all future material that might be posted on Flickr, thereby creating a constantly updated pool of images that the BBC could access at any time for free, and of course resell at a profit. A picture library for free in fact.
.. it seems also they are not above just taking what they want either …
But oh dear, what’s this then? Why, it’s a picture lifted without permission and used on the BBC Scotland news website! It’s not as if Sparks and Co couldn’t have asked. The original image had an almost indecent amount of copyright and contact information, not only in Photoshop’s File Info, but underneath it on the website where it was first published. Presumably BBC Scotland work at such a fast pace they simply can’t keep up with the number of pictures they lift without permission.
You can see how a photographer would be flattered and would be willing to offer up their work just for the portfolio/resume potential and bragging rights. The BBC though should be above this kind of thing, they should be leading the way in fair treatment of the public as they are supposed to be there to serve the public. They will get nowhere arguing they are under funded, they are certainly well funded in comparison to other media outlets who do pay and are not propped up by a television tax.
Personally I see nothing wrong with the BBC asking for free contributions. The pictures are submitted voluntarily after all. They just need to get their legal people to be a bit more fair with what they have people agreeing to.
See the full discussion at flickr here
Technorati Tags: bbc, photography, scandal, media, copyright, photographers, law, rights, news
Posted in Legal Issues, Ethics, Model Releases, News and Commentary, Online Photography Community, Protecting Copyright
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Top Ten Things NOT Safe To Photograph
Wow did this guy have a stroke of bad luck. Fotolia CEO Detained by Police for Taking Pictures
Early afternoon in Paris today, Fotolia CEO Thibaud Elziere was out for a walk and testing the new Nikon D80 digital camera. However, one image would change the rest of his day.Walking down the Rue Vaneau in Paris, Thibaud captured an image of a CCTV camera [...] Within minutes, Thibaud was approached by the French Police and detained for the better part of the day.
Unknown to Thibaud he had captured the CCTV camera of the French Prime Minister’s personal residence and caused a great security concern. According to Thibaud, there were no signs or warnings about photography in the area. A simple click and his day was ruined.
The police questioned him about what he was doing in the area, if he had any terrorism connections, about his work, and why he would want to take a picture of a CCTV camera. Thibaud relates that his first answer of “taking pictures for fun” did not satisfy them. He soon outlined his connection with Fotolia and testing the camera. After 8 hours of questioning and background checks, they returned his camera and escorted him home.
It seems from what I read in the article this could have happened to any one of us. You take a picture of a building, for whatever reason, next thing you know you are being questioned by policemen about if you have any terrorist connections. What can you do, stop taking pictures of houses?
We are increasingly being warned not to take pictures of anything (or anyone) which might be construed by the paranoid as a terrorist threat but how was he supposed to know this was the home of someone important without any signs or notices. Just CCTV present does not necessarily imply that the resident is someone of national or defense importance, the guy might have an expensive car etc.
So now we have a new entry in the top ten things you can’t safely photograph
- Underground/Tube/Buses
- Refineries or other Industrial plant
- Police
- Government buildings
- Bridges
- Tunnels
- Shopping malls
- Airports
- Office Buildings
- Houses
Have I missed any?
Technorati Tags: photography, law, terrorism, police, rights, news, tips
Posted in News and Commentary, Press Freedom
Also tagged freedom, news, photography, police, rights, terrorism, tips
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Photography, Copyright and the Digital Age
Thomas Hawk asks “Should Fair Use Apply to Your Family Portraits?“
I don’t want a wall sized family portrait because this is not how I consume photography these days. These days the majority of my photography is consumed on a 43″ plasma in my living room through my Media Center PC. Would I be interested in seeing my family shots on my plasma as they rotate through my digital photography collection, like all my other photography? Sure. Do I want a big wall sized print of my family on the living room wall? Not so much.So I explain to the photographer about how I consume photography these days, on how it is of much more value to me to see my work as part of my Media Center PC than on a wall on a $1,000 print and ask if there is a way instead of buying prints, that I can just purchase the images digitally. I’d even happily pay the $2,000 for digital versions of my 5×7s rather than get prints which I don’t really want to hang in my home anyways.
And here she tells me no. Which is her prerogative I suppose, but when I mention that I could always just scan the 5×7s and watch them anyways she goes off into a little speech about how her images are copyrighted and I can’t do that, etc.
Aaah, the old portrait photographer ransom. What a clever scheme this is. Thing is the photographer in question is well within her rights. Consumers continue to pay the prices without demanding digital files and Photographers continue to charge them without offering them.
There are many photographers now who do offer (voluntarily) digital files. Surprisingly many wedding Photographers see this as the bargain end of their offering with the more expensive leather-bound-large-print service being the premium. Geek as I am, I see it the other way round with the RAW/PSD/TIFF/JPG images the more desirable providing the digital files are high resolution.
Seems quite similar to the music/film industry DRM dilemma. Clearly consumers do not want it but the copyright holders are willing to do anything to enforce these unpopular restrictions. We don’t like the MPAA for it. There is a lesson right there. But Photographers do need to make a living and that is as important as the customer getting a disc with pictures on.
The only answer to this disagreement is some calm discussion of the issue. For future reference though there are two solutions
- Discuss beforehand your requirements (both Photographer and client)
- Provide the option of work-for-hire rather than traditional portrait shoot
For photographers you need to either consider providing files as an option or have a very good answer to the question. Our last family portrait session I simply asked and was given a CD, no quibble, no additional fee. You do not need to particularly go that far, maybe having a price on your menu for an archive CD/DVD but it is worth considering the negative affect point blank refusal will do to your reputation and repeat custom …
Technorati Tags: photography, copyright, fair, use, law, news, tips
Posted in News and Commentary, Protecting Copyright
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The Downside To Flickr
Flickr user and Utata webmaster Irana has reported in a thread her outrage caused by a Romanian newspaper. Not only have they used her photograph without permission, not only is this picture of her as a child, but they have used it to illustrate a piece about children being used by the Romanian version of the KGB! Read more over at Flickr: Utata
I am really not sure how to handle this. I have been informed today that my school photo, from when I was a child, was used today in an article in Romania. Let’s put this straight. This is my image. This is a photo I scanned and posted on the Internet. Have I been contacted prior to publication? NO. Is there attribution on the website and in the newspaper? NO. Have I been asked my permission that my image to be given as an example of children that had been hired by the “Securitate” (Romanian KGB)? Freaking NO. This is triple offense.
You have to feel it for her, she must feel frustrated and helpless. I do hope she can work something out.
What can we learn from this? Not very much really, a lot of us lately have posted up pictures of ourselves as children, plus our own children. I guess we can go through and make them all private. In fact I mostly do make pictures of my daughter private now out of fear. Really these publications should know better, morally at least, but I fear they know exactly what they are doing and know there is little anyone can do about it.
Technorati Tags: flickr, law, photography, copyright, news
Busted for taking pictures on Calgary Transit
Just another warning to be careful where you take your pictures. The guy is not sure if it was racially motivated but I guess that is debatable. I do know both Damian and I took photographs of Calgarys LRT (the “CTrain”) while we were there and were lucky enough to not catch any hassle for doing so.
Infringing Upon Freedom at After Hours with Sami Khan
So Calgarians, especially brown Calgarians, be warned, if you take pictures in the transit system you may be taken to the side by some policemen and questioned
With the paranoid times we live in I guess this will happen more and more, either legitimately for security reasons or as an excuse to hassle innocent citizens in cases where the individual likes to abuse their authority. I don’t think there is any way to prove which this case was one way or the other.
Technorati Tags: calgary, canada, photography, law, digital, camera, dslr
Posted in News and Commentary, Press Freedom
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Photography, the Law and Privacy, Again
Yet again the law governing photography in the USA has been tested, this time landing in favour of the photographer. This was particularly interesting as it was not just a privacy issue but one of religious rights also.
A New York court ruled this week that a photographer who took pictures of subjects on the street without their knowledge and then made hundreds of thousands of dollars selling those images did not have to get the permission of his subjects because the intention of the work was art, not commerce. The ruling reaffirms that people in public spaces cannot assume any privacy privilege, even if, as in this case, the subject was an orthodox jew, who regard portraits as graven images and disgraces the man in his community.
Posted in Legal Issues, Ethics, Model Releases, News and Commentary, Photography Business, Press Freedom
Also tagged digital, photos, privacy, public places, selling
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UK Photographers – Have You Got Your Photography License?
No? You haven’t got your photography license?
Oh dear.
Then Middlesborough police want a word with you …