Comments on: Grabbing Frames from Live Internet Video – Fair Use? http://dslrblog.com/grabbing-frames-from-live-internet-video-fair-use/ the stories behind the images Tue, 22 May 2012 11:37:42 +0000 hourly 1 By: StartWorkingFromHome http://dslrblog.com/grabbing-frames-from-live-internet-video-fair-use/comment-page-1/#comment-8313 StartWorkingFromHome Fri, 01 May 2009 12:52:38 +0000 http://dslrblog.com/?p=939#comment-8313 great stuff great stuff

]]> By: Fernanda Gomez http://dslrblog.com/grabbing-frames-from-live-internet-video-fair-use/comment-page-1/#comment-7276 Fernanda Gomez Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:38:17 +0000 http://dslrblog.com/?p=939#comment-7276 I think it is copyrighted, it should get the permission first. I think it is copyrighted, it should get the permission first.

]]> By: Brad Leclerc http://dslrblog.com/grabbing-frames-from-live-internet-video-fair-use/comment-page-1/#comment-7167 Brad Leclerc Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:16:27 +0000 http://dslrblog.com/?p=939#comment-7167 @Michael - When you say, "Money has nothing to do with the infringement, only the damages awarded", you are right in a sense. Whether or not you make money on the copyrighted item is not legally relevant...what is legally relevant is whether or not your use of the item could affect the copyright owner's profits, or have other adverse effects for them...which is where the damages awarded comes in. It is extremely hard to show damages in regards to something like a screen capture from footage of an event that was not exclusive to the copyright owner such as this case, so while they would be well within their rights to ask it be taken down, that's about as far as they could go with it with any legal merit. That said, it's always better to ask permission when possible and save everyone the headache anyway...and it's definitely the "nice" thing to do, even if the legality is a bit fuzzy. @Michael – When you say, “Money has nothing to do with the infringement, only the damages awarded”, you are right in a sense. Whether or not you make money on the copyrighted item is not legally relevant…what is legally relevant is whether or not your use of the item could affect the copyright owner’s profits, or have other adverse effects for them…which is where the damages awarded comes in. It is extremely hard to show damages in regards to something like a screen capture from footage of an event that was not exclusive to the copyright owner such as this case, so while they would be well within their rights to ask it be taken down, that’s about as far as they could go with it with any legal merit.

That said, it’s always better to ask permission when possible and save everyone the headache anyway…and it’s definitely the “nice” thing to do, even if the legality is a bit fuzzy.

]]> By: Michael http://dslrblog.com/grabbing-frames-from-live-internet-video-fair-use/comment-page-1/#comment-7164 Michael Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:14:04 +0000 http://dslrblog.com/?p=939#comment-7164 Fair use? No. Fair use covers partial copies or small copies (quotes & thumbnails) for the purpose of critique, review, or education. This is a very gray area, the same case could go either way based on the judge/jury. Money has nothing to do with the infringement, only the damages awarded. You could give away copies or sell them, the ruling on the infringement will be the same - guilty or not guilty. Fair use? No.

Fair use covers partial copies or small copies (quotes & thumbnails) for the purpose of critique, review, or education. This is a very gray area, the same case could go either way based on the judge/jury. Money has nothing to do with the infringement, only the damages awarded. You could give away copies or sell them, the ruling on the infringement will be the same – guilty or not guilty.

]]> By: Brad Leclerc http://dslrblog.com/grabbing-frames-from-live-internet-video-fair-use/comment-page-1/#comment-7140 Brad Leclerc Sat, 15 Nov 2008 20:02:47 +0000 http://dslrblog.com/?p=939#comment-7140 Agreed, Mk. Always better to get permission whenever possible. Agreed, Mk. Always better to get permission whenever possible.

]]> By: Mk http://dslrblog.com/grabbing-frames-from-live-internet-video-fair-use/comment-page-1/#comment-7137 Mk Sat, 15 Nov 2008 19:08:05 +0000 http://dslrblog.com/?p=939#comment-7137 The easy way out of (or around) these tricky legal issues: Ask the owner! ;) Why would we want to profit from the work of others against their will, even if it was legal? The easy way out of (or around) these tricky legal issues: Ask the owner! ;)

Why would we want to profit from the work of others against their will, even if it was legal?

]]> By: Brad Leclerc http://dslrblog.com/grabbing-frames-from-live-internet-video-fair-use/comment-page-1/#comment-7122 Brad Leclerc Sat, 15 Nov 2008 17:34:06 +0000 http://dslrblog.com/?p=939#comment-7122 Fair use is tricky...especially in cases where there may be money involved for the person using the image (or whatever the case may be). Probably pretty safe with a single frame of a video unless for some reason posting it could take away potential earnings from the original source (say, leaking a frame of a video that was meant solely for private use, or from a video that is only available to a select group of people who purchase it) could get you in trouble, but something like a frame from a sporting event is pretty clearly fair use. I wouldn't go try to sell posters of it or anything though :) Fair use is tricky…especially in cases where there may be money involved for the person using the image (or whatever the case may be).

Probably pretty safe with a single frame of a video unless for some reason posting it could take away potential earnings from the original source (say, leaking a frame of a video that was meant solely for private use, or from a video that is only available to a select group of people who purchase it) could get you in trouble, but something like a frame from a sporting event is pretty clearly fair use. I wouldn’t go try to sell posters of it or anything though :)

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